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Old Nov 25, 2009, 02:48 PM // 14:48   #41
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I couldn't care less about ecto price at the moment. I've got what I want, ecto is just another rare trading material. Bolt of damask or ecto... all the same to me
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Old Nov 25, 2009, 03:25 PM // 15:25   #42
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PS the best tank skill in the game...lol



Last I checked PS never made all spells fail & all attacks miss.
i was referring to SF...read posts before comments ^^
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Old Nov 25, 2009, 04:30 PM // 16:30   #43
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lol at all the "don't like it, dont use it", and everyone will quit if its nerfed arguments here. You people are bad, SF is bad, I hope you're serious about leaving when SF gets nerfed because it would make the community better.

Anyway on topic. I'm thinking about 10k ea, it'll be nice selling 10/100k.


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As far as I see...DoA is empty...so people probably did quit. Sure, you can argue they all went to UWSC, but unless there's an accurate statistic you can never prove it. But in my experience, UW population didn't increase nearly as much as the drastic decline of DoA...DoA had 3 full district when Ursan was around, and I didn't see ToA increase by 3 district when it was nerfed.
Just in case you haven't noticed theres other things to do in this game besides doa. The tons of people who abuse sf were the same people who abused ursan and will be the same people that will stick around to abuse the next big farm skill.

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Old Nov 25, 2009, 05:20 PM // 17:20   #44
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if u read further on regina's quote ''Shadow Form and may also include changes to other prominent farming skills.''

lets see these monks start to weep blood aswell i hope it is prot spirit plz plz plz let it be prot spirit
o yes plz if they nerf shadow form stop these freakin monks from going from
2k to 1mil (my friend actually did) in about a week from doing runs and people complain about assassins monk complainers are less cuz we are the ones paying the monks making them freakin rich i say we kill 600/smite and other monk farming and duengon running builds so they go back to healing only
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Old Nov 25, 2009, 06:11 PM // 18:11   #45
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and... when u nerfed everything, when u can't get any good item (without spending a lot of ur spare-time), when it's already 4 years u have this game and u cant get the new stuffs without a "safe & fast build"
what remains? what motivations has a player to continue? nothing.

personally after 4 years and half, tried all classes, completed all campaigns, maxed 30 titles and not interest anymore on pvp... only speedclears and farming remains... nothing else, no point and no reason to do again any of the things listed before...

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Old Nov 25, 2009, 06:13 PM // 18:13   #46
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o yes plz if they nerf shadow form stop these freakin monks from going from
2k to 1mil (my friend actually did) in about a week from doing runs and people complain about assassins monk complainers are less cuz we are the ones paying the monks making them freakin rich i say we kill 600/smite and other monk farming and duengon running builds so they go back to healing only
Instead of moaning maybe you should try to 600...
... or maybe it's not a stroll in the park as it looks like?

Monking hasn't been healing only for like... i don't know... 2 years at least
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Old Nov 25, 2009, 06:15 PM // 18:15   #47
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i was referring to SF...read posts before comments ^^
My apologies, I had just woke up.
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Old Nov 25, 2009, 06:38 PM // 18:38   #48
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what remains?
I can't wait to get 30 titles. From there I'd spend time just screwing with other players, building my friends list, try quests I've never tried, playing with people I know, and continue to work up new fun builds.
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Old Nov 25, 2009, 06:46 PM // 18:46   #49
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sincerly i dont care about doing some crap sidequests for 500g and 1000xp stealing 30 mins of my life...

about friends... well i think friends are outside, in the real life, not in a game,
90% of the friends u get in a game are contingent to the game and when u will stop to play it they will be forgotten (90%, not all maybe)

and again... what's the point of repeat something that can't give me any kind of satisfaction? at least doa, uw, fow... they give it cause sometimes they can drop some "wonderful" item u didnt have before... but all the rest of the game... is kinda useless and, over all, not used by 90% of the community

edit: the elite areas mentioned before give satisfaction because i think that the time i spend on them worth it! if i have to spend 4 hours to make a uw run and there's a 50% chance to fail on the way... well, bb gw, i'll find other games to spend my spare time

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Old Nov 25, 2009, 06:51 PM // 18:51   #50
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Oh, a speculation thread for marketing purpose, because we haven't seen these before. This is either an ill conceived plot to manipulate ecto prices for your own gains, or you truly think prices are going to go into that much flux, to which I respond... LOL
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Old Nov 25, 2009, 09:13 PM // 21:13   #51
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I sense a disturbance in the ecto prices
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Old Nov 25, 2009, 09:23 PM // 21:23   #52
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sincerly i dont care about doing some crap sidequests for 500g and 1000xp stealing 30 mins of my life...

about friends... well i think friends are outside, in the real life, not in a game,
90% of the friends u get in a game are contingent to the game and when u will stop to play it they will be forgotten (90%, not all maybe)

and again... what's the point of repeat something that can't give me any kind of satisfaction? at least doa, uw, fow... they give it cause sometimes they can drop some "wonderful" item u didnt have before... but all the rest of the game... is kinda useless and, over all, not used by 90% of the community

edit: the elite areas mentioned before give satisfaction because i think that the time i spend on them worth it! if i have to spend 4 hours to make a uw run and there's a 50% chance to fail on the way... well, bb gw, i'll find other games to spend my spare time
In the end, those "crap quests" and elite areas give you the same thing for your time: nothing.

It's all the same 1's and 0's.
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Old Nov 25, 2009, 10:27 PM // 22:27   #53
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In the end, those "crap quests" and elite areas give you the same thing for your time: nothing.

It's all the same 1's and 0's.
naa, there's a difference: "crap quest" are boring, elite areas are fun

(obviously every game add nothing to my time, but this can be applied to every single game of the world... target is to free mind, and give fun, for me elite areas do... crap quests not)
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Old Nov 25, 2009, 10:39 PM // 22:39   #54
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I sense a disturbance in the ecto prices
My bad *sweeps a few armbraces under the rug* anyway I'm going to guess one week after the skills nerf it will go back to the 6-7k range it's at now.
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Old Nov 25, 2009, 10:40 PM // 22:40   #55
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Oh, a speculation thread for marketing purpose, because we haven't seen these before. This is either an ill conceived plot to manipulate ecto prices for your own gains, or you truly think prices are going to go into that much flux, to which I respond... LOL
I do so agree, in the event of a nerf of sf, ectos will have a slight fluctuation of likely 1k, for about a week. In the event of a nerf of almost all farming builds, the fluctuation will be greater, but not for some time as everyone is stocking up, and won't even occurr if a new farming method is found before it has a chance to seep in.
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Old Nov 26, 2009, 08:07 AM // 08:07   #56
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its the speculation that makes the price increase.

before the skeles arrived in uw, ectos kept going up. once they actually arrived, the price of ectos didn't raise, it actually started to lower.
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Old Nov 26, 2009, 09:32 AM // 09:32   #57
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Dunno what's bad with ectos being 10k ea.

I bought my first set when ectos were 18k ea.
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Old Nov 26, 2009, 11:03 AM // 11:03   #58
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Dunno what's bad with ectos being 10k ea.

I bought my first set when ectos were 18k ea.
I hear you; but back then there was no such thing as loot scaling!
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Old Nov 26, 2009, 08:38 PM // 20:38   #59
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Well, traders change prices depending on how many people sell and buy items to them.

People don't sell ectos to traders. They use them to trade, and they only buy ectos from them as a last resont, since there is almost always selling or buying ectos in any of the temples of the five gods.

So... I wonder how good are traders when it comes to the price of ectos.
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Old Nov 26, 2009, 10:39 PM // 22:39   #60
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Well, traders change prices depending on how many people sell and buy items to them.

People don't sell ectos to traders. They use them to trade, and they only buy ectos from them as a last resont, since there is almost always selling or buying ectos in any of the temples of the five gods.

So... I wonder how good are traders when it comes to the price of ectos.
When I'm extremely lazy and in need of some quick cash, I'll sell a bunch of ecto to the trader. I know I would be cheating myself at the moment, but I can't be bothered to be selling them to players for an extra 500g profit per ecto.

I'm not claiming my ecto selling to the trader would alter prices, but if there is one person selling ecto to the trader (me), there could be more.
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